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[Spoiler]Eventide is Coming + Some info from the future...
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hebikage
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Post Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:47 pm    Post subject: [Spoiler]Eventide is Coming + Some info from the future... Reply with quote
As I had done here in the past, I'll be spoiling you guys with some Eventide Beans as well as Info about the set.

Eventide
Part 2 of 2 in Shadowmoor Mini-block
180 cards
Release: July 25, 2008
Pre-release: July 12-13, 2008




Known Info:
1) Eventide would have hybrids again! This time, it's enemy-colors. ~~
2) Cycles of Spirit Avatars with CMC 5 would be printed.

Some spoiled cards:
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=117022

MTG Previews would start on July 1st

And for the future info...

Beginning Shards of Alara (the next block after Lorwyn Block), the prerelease tournaments would be held 6 days before the release date.
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Post Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Good to have the spoilers back. Very Happy

Chrome mechanic is kinda ok. Not too attractive, not too powerful.
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Post Posted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Chroma is ok, but pair it with Iname, Death Aspect and you get a 50/50 fatty.
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hebikage
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Post Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
...but I wonder how it works with Demigod of Revenge? Note that it's also BBBBB ~~
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Post Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 2:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wild guess, but I think hybrid mana will be counted differently -- letting (2/b) mana be equal to both (2) and (B) is a little too much.
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Post Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I disagree, actually. The way MtG rules are constructed, calling hybrid mana anything else would make it rather inconsistent.
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Post Posted: Sat Jun 21, 2008 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I thought that (2/b) should be different from (2) and (B) because if (2/b) were considered equal then 2R, 2GG, (2/w)(2/u) cards should trigger Chroma... But then I re-read the rules text on Chroma, so my bad. Razz
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hebikage
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Post Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
12 more cards for your viewing (and spoiling) pleasure. Make sure to check out Unmake and Stigma Lasher to put them on "must-haves" ~~,

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=magic/eventide/spoiler

And also, a new mechanic, Retrace was introduced! It's Flashback 2.0 actually, but still great mech. Check out Raven's Crime for that too. ~~

Retrace-mechanic cards + Crucible of Worlds = Who needs land cards anyways? ~~
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Post Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
A new specter is in town!

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Retrace-mechanic cards + Crucible of Worlds = Who needs land cards anyways? ~~

You still need them, remember that you have to discard lands to play retrace spells. then play the land from your graveyard. Razz
Unless your playing Worm harvest. Laughing

From the current list, here's what I can say:
*stigma lasher is gay.
*overbring of myth is also gay.
*unmake is even gayer. (No, my mossbridge troll Sad( )
*Altar golem sucks (theoretically, though possibly strong since there are many token producers)
*doomgape is cute. (qbf, it's the missing link to mossbridgetroll!! Laughing)
*thunderblust is also cute. kinda like blistering firecat Laughing
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Post Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
erwin wrote:
A new specter is in town!

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Retrace-mechanic cards + Crucible of Worlds = Who needs land cards anyways? ~~

You still need them, remember that you have to discard lands to play retrace spells. then play the land from your graveyard. Razz
Unless your playing Worm harvest. Laughing

From the current list, here's what I can say:
*stigma lasher is gay.
*overbring of myth is also gay.
*unmake is even gayer. (No, my mossbridge troll Sad( )
*Altar golem sucks (theoretically, though possibly strong since there are many token producers)
*doomgape is cute. (qbf, it's the missing link to mossbridgetroll!! Laughing)
*thunderblust is also cute. kinda like blistering firecat Laughing


Don't judge it yet you haven't seen the whole set yet.
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Post Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Commentary on the cards:

Endless horizons - Pro: Never waste a draw on plains again, Con: You might never get another plains again(in b4 disenchant)

Needle Specter - Pro: unchecked, can zero a player's hand quickly. Con: Thinner than hypnotic(power of fire lol)

Raven's Crime - Pro: Throw away chaff for your opponent's chaff. Con: would you waste your land on this, or something better?

Umbra Stalker - Pro: It can be HUGE(BFM, anyone?). Con: non-evasive, Unprotected, erratic, graveyard-hosed, etc, etc.

Outrage Shaman - Pro: Creature with free critter burn(minimum 2). Con: cmc5 for a 2/2. No shriekmaw this is.

Stigma Lasher - Pro: By double your life total, you mean gain no life, right? Con: Now how to get it to connect?

Thunderblust - Pro: Get out of jail with a free toaster? Awesome. Con: Lacks the early surprise of the original.

Phosphorescent Feast - Pro: If you happen to be packing a set of overbeings on hand, whee! Con: See previous statement.

Bloom Tender - Pro: Haig potential. Could get you 3 mana on turn 3, or better. Con: Nothing much, really, besides being rare.

Swirling Spriggan - Pro: So green goblins are spriggans now, and this one's artsy. Con: Doesn't really do much, though painting stuff may help you win.

Call the Skybreaker - Pro: Biggie generator. Reminiscent of Dragon roost. Con: slow, mana costly.

Doomgape - Pro: DOOM!... anyway, Hueg bulldozer which mulches things to life, including himself. Fun stuff. Con: At its worst play, its 7 mana for 10 life.

Drain the Well - Pro: more G lanD. Con: lol thermokarst at +1 cmc for +1 life. Poison was more useful.

Overbeing of Myth - Pro: Control fiend's friend. Con: non-evasive, unprotected, Erratic. Though its home would probably fix that.

Restless Apparition - Pro: Unpredictable, can push in 8/7 dmg on idortes. Con: needs your mana plox.

Scourge of the Nobilis - Pro: Nice mix of abilities. Con: Enchant creature.

Shorecrasher Mimic - Pro: Cheap juggernaut. Con: If you have a spare u/g card.

Unmake - Pro: White creature kill that doesn't say attack or block, get ready for lol expensive. Con: Aside from being forced for color mana...

Worm Harvest - Pro: synergy card. wormspam. Con: Gravehosed.

Altar golem - Pro: Could be HUEG, has Trample. Con: Sardian slow, erratic.
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Post Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Flame Jab R

Sorcery Common
Flame Jab deals 1 damage to target creature or player.
Retrace (You may play this card from your graveyard by discarding a land card in addition to paying its other costs


they're kidding right? it screams countryside crushaaa all over
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Post Posted: Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
no, i don't think so. if you have crusher in play you won't draw any more lands, and unless you have a way of getting the land cards back in your hand, you won't be paying that retrace cost anyway.
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Post Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
countryside crusher + worm harvest has potential Razz
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Post Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oh, it's prerelease time! Gahh....~~

Hmm i wanna know if Figure of Destiny is the Prerelease card...
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Post Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Unfortunately, no. Methinks its that sucky U/G Maro Avatar.
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Post Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Yep, it's the meh U/G avatar. Aeon Chronicler minus the evasion...
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Post Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2008 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
AC never had evasion, he was just uncounterable when suspended.

Suck card still sucks though.
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