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oldgobbo0
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject: Double Battlefury |
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| this item build has a lot of potential for meelee heroes specially for those with special abilities. For example, magnataur, with his migthy swing, can maximize the strength of double bf. what can you say?^^ |
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erwin
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Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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any melee hero + dobol battlefury = STORNG!!
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oghma
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 1:08 am Post subject: |
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Ideally, it will. The only problem will be how to set-up the items because some of these melee heroes don't have high farming potential. The only two heroes that I see with huge potential with 2BFs are Magnataur and Mortdred.
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erwin
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:49 am Post subject: |
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the problem is what part of the recipe will you get first..
if your hero is more "banatbanat" type(like mortred), then get 2 ring of health..
if your hero is a spammer type or you just what to (like magnataur), then get 2 void stone..
you'll see the BIG difference..
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oldgobbo0
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Posted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| farming is indeed hard for these heroes but you will find out that it is worth waiting for, especially in the end game. you just have to be patient, and know when to fight and retreat. also, you will be far from your team mates most of the time so u should not forget to bring tp's all the time... |
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mnightsilver
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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Will dual Battle Fury work for Dark Terror?
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Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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erwin
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Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 8:15 am Post subject: |
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| mnightsilver wrote: | | Will dual Battle Fury work for Dark Terror? |
Yes. It will.
Think of this. You have Mask of Madness and 2 Furies. You're enemies piles up in a spot. You activate your madness. You cast chronosphere and you got all of them in the sphere, adjacent to each other. You attack the nearest opponent, then suddenly you see on the screen TRIPLE KILL!! 
That is if you play you're cards right..
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oldgobbo0
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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| that is why the long farming is worth it...you just have to be careful since your hero will be thin, especially if you are agi-type. you will surely be a delicious meal when you are caught flat footed, while farming. |
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don5
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Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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| erwin wrote: | | mnightsilver wrote: | | Will dual Battle Fury work for Dark Terror? |
Yes. It will.
Think of this. You have Mask of Madness and 2 Furies. You're enemies piles up in a spot. You activate your madness. You cast chronosphere and you got all of them in the sphere, adjacent to each other. You attack the nearest opponent, then suddenly you see on the screen TRIPLE KILL!!
That is if you play you're cards right.. |
...like wen ur stupid furion of a team mate sprouts u 2 sum1 wid this build...kewl...happy.
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erwin
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Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 1:07 pm Post subject: |
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@don:
ahaha.. **** happens...
just found another hero that's good with dobol fury..
YURNERO the Blademaster
apparently omnislashes are melee attacks, and of physical type dmg.. so your omnislashes will splash!! it will become OMNISPLASH!!
it will become worthit even if you omnislash with creeps.. the splash will kill the "nuisances" and the remaining slashes will finish your hero.. plus it increases the chances of killing many opponents in one omnislash..
[Mod Edit by boy_bakal. Watch your language mister  ]
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oldgobbo0
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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| that's great. i thought the splash will only occur during the bonus slashes(where critical strikes and orb effects take effect). that is something to look forward to. |
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erwin
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 6:58 pm Post subject: |
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sorry about my last post..
should have dobol check.. 
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mnightsilver
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Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Anyway, I've come to respect the power of dual Furies. I should have done that build with Faceless Void last game at Hobbystop. Apparently, one is enough. Two would be OVERKILL!
Faceless Void+Lord of Olympia rocks!
Faceless Void+Dwarven Sniper rocks even harder!
Man, I really want to be a great Faceless Void user...
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erwin
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Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:18 am Post subject: |
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**OUT OF TOPIC**
actually, faceless void has the 'ideal' melee skills.. he has means of escape/ entrance (time walk), he has stun effect (Time Lock, although you have to hit fast to stun), he has 'evasion' (Backtrack, although it's a lot better since it can avoid skills and magic.. BTW, Backtrack and Evasion from items STACK, following the diminishing return rule..) and he has 'area stun' (Chronosphere).
**BACK TO TOPIC**
The 2 Fury build is storng, but the main problem why people sometimes have a hard time doing them is the item build. Besides from what i said before, there's another thing you should remember: Buy nothing else unless you completed the recipe.
apparently dobol furies are expensive, in a way that when you buy other stuff such as bracers, ring of regen, even boots of speed will slow your build down. Tango of essification is no problem, as well as ironwood branch but if you buy too much you'll never get enough gold to but 2 furies before lvl 16.. well, you can buy boots of speed after the first fury, but before that, it is bad, unless you have something in mind or it will give you battle advantage, such as Yurnero...
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Xtian
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 1:06 am Post subject: |
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I used battlefury against AI opponents. I was using King Leoric. One battlefury is nice. Two battlefuries and money is flowing in good. Three battlefuries are insane! I was sweeping creeps and AI opponents and money was flowing in like crazy.
I have a question. Is there any interaction between lifesteal and cleave? I wasn't able to observe with Leoric since his hp was full almost all the time after my first BF.
edit---- NOt reading the entire thread! >.<
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erwin
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Xtian wrote: | I used battlefury against AI opponents. I was using King Leoric. One battlefury is nice. Two battlefuries and money is flowing in good. Three battlefuries are insane! I was sweeping creeps and AI opponents and money was flowing in like crazy.
I have a question. Is there any interaction between lifesteal and cleave? I wasn't able to observe with Leoric since his hp was full almost all the time after my first BF.
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*"One is enough, Two is too much, Three is a poison that can kill a person"
2 BFs is good enough, although 3 is good, i would be better if you go for a "fattening" item (satanic or HoT) or a "speeding" item (butterfly, treads or cuirass).. Leoric already has the fat, it just needs speed.. Althoug 3 BFs IS COOL 
Me want to try it
*No, you don't get lifesteal from splashes.. You "steal life" on your attack to your target, but not on other sources..
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Xtian
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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I tried battlefury on Raigor. His attack animation changed from hitting a target with tree trunk to constantly slamming the ground.
@erwin
I tried 3 BFs as experiment. I will never do it in a real game. 
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mnightsilver
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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I actually want to use dual furies with leviathan. I think that's powerful. I can imagine the amount of damage he can do... Bwahahaha!
I actually have a few questions regarding this build attempt:
1. Does Battle Fury cause Leviathan's Anchor Smash to splash? Or is Anchor Smash a passive "spell" effect that affects a certain area?
2. If yes, do dual Furies stack for determining Anchor Smash area damage?
3. Is Anchor Smash an area melee attack at all, like Magnataur's Mighty Swing?
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erwin
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Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2007 10:11 pm Post subject: |
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| mnightsilver wrote: |
1. Does Battle Fury cause Leviathan's Anchor Smash to splash? Or is Anchor Smash a passive "spell" effect that affects a certain area?
2. If yes, do dual Furies stack for determining Anchor Smash area damage?
3. Is Anchor Smash an area melee attack at all, like Magnataur's Mighty Swing? |
Nope, it doesn't stack. Anchor Smash is an effect that deals 200dmg to every creature around it, so if you manage to make your dmg bigger than 200 dmg and have battle fury, you'll deal more dmg with your attack than anchor smash..
It's not a splash attack, if you're comparing it to Magnus' Mighty swing, but an effect..
I don't know if this is already fix but Leviathan having fury is somehow imba.. Furies give you splash attack on the BACK of the target but Leviathan's attack splashes AROUND him.. The animation BTW is as if you're having Anchor Smash on every atk, although it's not.. He's like dancing ballet 
***A NOTE***
I just read this on the forums, but i think it's true.. Yurnero's Omnislashes don't splash anymore not even the bonus slashes.. no more Omnisplash..
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mnightsilver
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Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 5:29 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the info. And, yes, Furies for Leviathan is teh storng. I just saw it work. Give him dual Furies, an Assault Cuirass, a Refresher Orb, a Heart, and Boots of Travel, he becomes uber Tank-Killer. Leviathan Smash!
Although with the above build, I want a space for a Dagger of Escape. What should disappear? maybe the Refresher Orb. Although Ravage twice is deadly... Hmmmm... Decisions, decisions. 
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erwin
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 7:24 am Post subject: |
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i'd say refresher orb should go, giving Leviathan more mana to maneuver his gush^^..
besides 2 ravage + refresher orb activation requires A LOT of mana, i think its at lvl18-21 that he'll have extra mana to gush or something..
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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Refresher should definitely go... Blink + Ravage is a setup for a team kill. With just the right spacing, Ravage + Vacuum (or Reverse Polarity) = TRIPLE KILL!!!
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Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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I can see it now, the Dervish Leviathan! Bhwahahaha!
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 12:49 am Post subject: |
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boy_bakal
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 1:21 am Post subject: |
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not so much. double fury is more of a late game investment, and pudge isn't the best hero to take advantage of it. with pudge you get most of your kills through your skills. key things to have with pudge are mana regen, move speed, plus lots of hp and/or spell resistance.
usually double fury work best either with heroes that have mass disable, like magnataur or faceless void, or those with really high damage potential, like sven or mortred.
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erwin
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Posted: Thu Aug 02, 2007 10:48 am Post subject: |
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dobol battlefury is good for heroes that have "Critical Strike" skill, but not exactly the same name.. like Phantom Assassin's Coup de Grace which has 15% chance to deal x4 dmg..
..or those with boosting-attack skills like Magnataur's Empower and Sven's God Strength (just a reminder: God Strength only multiply damage given from a high attribute, so if you only have 2 furies GS won't multiply the dmg from that source..)
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