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Aur Ain Soph
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Post Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:40 pm    Post subject: Rules Question Reply with quote
I was wondering how the draw mechanics work. Say, if you had a card like font of mythos in play is it one draw step with extra cards or is each draw separate?
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boy_bakal
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Post Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 12:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
You only have one draw step. What Font of Mythos does is force you to draw two extra cards at the beginning of that draw step. Howling Mine functions similarly.

EDIT: Ok, just so we're very very clear here:

Phases:
1) Beginning
-Untap
-Upkeep
-Draw
2) Pre-combat Main
3) Combat
-Declare Attackers
-Declare Blockers
-(First Strike Damage)
-Combat Damage
4) Post-combat Main
5) End Turn/Cleanup (in that order)

Hope that helps.
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Aur Ain Soph
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Post Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 1:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
So wordings like the next time you would draw a card do x instead means the whole three draw if you say use the ability during the draw step?
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Athanasia Kitty
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Post Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Assuming you would draw three cards... If the wording is "the next time you would draw a card, do X instead" then X triggers only once. You do X then draw two cards. If the wording is "if you would draw a card, do Y instead", then Y trigger three times.
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Post Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
@AAS: AK is correct. However, if you like, feel free to post the actual card text you were curious about. We'll determine what the effect will be.
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Aur Ain Soph
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Post Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Uhmm...font of mythos and words of worship. I'd post the link but my net is being buggy. >.o
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Post Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Words of Worship
Font of Mythos
It would trigger only once per activation. You need to pay 1 mana for each card you draw that you want to convert to gain 5 life.
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Aur Ain Soph
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Post Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
So you can convert all three to hp? sweet. >.>;;
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erwin
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Post Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 9:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Athanasia Kitty wrote:
Words of Worship
Font of Mythos
It would trigger only once per activation. You need to pay 1 mana for each card you draw that you want to convert to gain 5 life.


Agreed
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boy_bakal
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Post Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
This is correct, yes.

It would also be extended legal, and since you're going that route, might I recommend Martyr of Sands?

Ah, I miss UW... err, "not manly" deck Very Happy
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hebikage
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Post Posted: Sat Mar 28, 2009 1:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Oh, so it's good. I wonder if someone could pull off spiteful visions with that card ~~, Sort of Draw and Die deck ~~

@buddy: Yah, good thing Martyr of Sands took a backseat from Standard play. I cursed your "unmanly" deck a couple of times. And oh darn that Purity >.<
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Post Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2009 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
^I've tried it; once dubbed the 'uition-vision project (so called since it combined Forced Fruition with Spiteful Visions). It turned out really quite unremarkable, actually; as I understand it, white is the better pairing for Spiteful Visions, as one can set Runed Halo to Spiteful Visions, thus negating the life-loss. "Turbo-Smog," if you will, is an interesting archetype, actually, though I'd never actually use it in a serious tourney or some such. From experience, the archetype simply folds to Fae and/or 5-cc, though I imagine the RW Lark matchup should be favorable, so it's worth considering.
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