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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Revan wrote: | Alternatively, try Mechwarrior 4 and its variants. Mechwarrior 4: Mercenaries is especially good, and has a reasonable online MP base if you want to bash other people online.
If you're more into cerebral retro gaming, try the Battletech wargame (I have a hardcopy of the introductory game) and its java clone, Megamek. The game is complex, but the mecha customization system is incredibly robust (and is one of the main selling points of the wargame), and you can play with mechs, tanks, infantry, powered armor, and others, with easily scalable rules. |
Have you heard of Mechwarrior Living Legends? It is a total modification/conversion of Crysis to battlemech and it looks awesome. Here is the link to their gallery.
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 9:46 pm Post subject: |
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Living Legends is good... but the Net Battle Tech community is far larger and has more stable Mods and upgrades.
Oh... MW 5 is coming out... with a timeline that predates the other MW in the gaming franchise... I wonder if they plan on rebooting the story altogether.
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2009 10:10 pm Post subject: |
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| gareth wrote: | Living Legends is good... but the Net Battle Tech community is far larger and has more stable Mods and upgrades.
Oh... MW 5 is coming out... with a timeline that predates the other MW in the gaming franchise... I wonder if they plan on rebooting the story altogether.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sl4eI3htAuA |
Holy crap! Just a few weeks ago I was searching if there would be MW5 then suddenly this?! I actually thought MW5 was gone for good. Thanks for the great video!
The last thing you want to see after the smoke clears up is the goddamn Atlas. That story is so classic.
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 4:06 pm Post subject: |
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Whoo! Classic Succession Wars Battletech! None of that Clan-tech or Word of Blake shite, baby, this is Succession Wars retrotech! Hua!
Warhammer, warhammer, warhammer, my god how I've missed the warhammer! (That said, ang tapang ng loco sa loob ng warhammer na yun ah. Harapan with an Atlas. Bad thing to do, given that the Warhammer is very heavily armed, but has subpar 'sinks and armor.)
I want me a Marauder! Classic marauder! Whee! (nerdgasm)
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Revan wrote: | Whoo! Classic Succession Wars Battletech! None of that Clan-tech or Word of Blake shite, baby, this is Succession Wars retrotech! Hua!
Warhammer, warhammer, warhammer, my god how I've missed the warhammer! (That said, ang tapang ng loco sa loob ng warhammer na yun ah. Harapan with an Atlas. Bad thing to do, given that the Warhammer is very heavily armed, but has subpar 'sinks and armor.)
I want me a Marauder! Classic marauder! Whee! (nerdgasm) |
I just want the classic Commando unit. all-around balance guy, and still faster than most packers around. then there's that little dragon mech... all with it's flamer goodness.
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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True about the Commando, but imo, the risk of ammo explosion...leaves a lot to be desired. Though you'll definitely be able to take on targets 10-15 tons above the Commando's weight, if you play it right.
Ah, the Dragon. It's one of those units that you either know how to use beautifully, or curse high command for it's general uselessness. :p
Love that unit. Fast for a heavy, and good long range sparring, but with the armor to slug it out up close in a physical melee. And it gets much better with the 3039 era Grand Dragon upgrades. Though the DRG-5S (PPC, SRM-6, MLas, iirc) is also a good config, even if it is an LC piece of scrap.
I want to play Battletech again.
Other 3025 units I do miss, the Phoenix Hawk, Panther and the Jenner (Kurita loyalist that I am, I love their light mechs). Barely recognized the Jenner in that gameplay trailer. Have they come up with a release date yet? 
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Commando! Ahh... I remember the mechwarrior 2 days... I miss that mech
And the Dragon mech. That speedy little bastard. When I played MW4 online I was ignored for the more heavier mechs until I punched a hole with a heavy gauss. Good times. 
@revan
The fight really is one-sided to start with. Heavy mech vs assault mech? What was the pilot thinking? The friggin atlas did not even use its arm weapons.
I miss the game  )
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 10:47 pm Post subject: |
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Series co-creator Jordan Weisman has confirmed the game for both PC and Xbox 360. Simply titled MechWarrior, it’s in development at Piranha Games (of Transformers 2 game fame) and Smith & Tinker. The game is being developed using the Unreal Engine 3, but still maintains the “action sim” style of past games.
The game is to feature a cooperative mode with up to four players, multiplayer modes with ranks comparible to Call of Duty. They’re aiming for cross-platform play between all modes.
wet release date is September of this year. <_< but I never believe those.
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:00 pm Post subject: |
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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@gareth: September, eh? Well, the engine looks pretty polished already. 4 player coop is perfect, that way you're all in the same lance.
I'm concerned about cross-platform compatibility though. That may end up dumbing down the PC version.
@xtian: Though in actuality, the 3025-3039 Dragon was armed even more poorly due to the vagaries of post Star League lostech. 10 tons of armor, an AC/5, an LRM-10, and 2 medium lasers. Ridiculously underarmed for a mech of its weight class, but damn, for a heavy, it could run, and its weapons had standoff capacity. I wouldn't enter a city fight with it (unless maybe I'd brawl in melee), but on open, rolling terrain, or fortified sniping roosts it's a neat mech.
3039 introduced the Grand Dragon (swap AC/5 for PPC), and another upgrade that swapped the AC/5 into an Ultra equivalent. And when Kurita begins to produce their PPC variants during the WoB Jihad, things even get more exciting, with Dragon variants packing snub-nose or heavy PPCs and serving as mobile hubs for C3 networks.
Sorry, nerdgasming. *goes back to playing Megamek*
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Posted: Sun Aug 02, 2009 11:48 pm Post subject: |
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If the the online multiplayer game is real good I might even change my ISP. I am not happy with Globe. My MW4 online game using a dial up was much much more better than using Globe Broadband.
Also, I am more of an IS guy than a Clanner (mixed actually, clan tech on IS chassis) and I am more than orgasmic to see the Atlas.
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Posted: Mon Aug 03, 2009 3:39 pm Post subject: |
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The fight really is one-sided to start with. Heavy mech vs assault mech? What was the pilot thinking? The friggin atlas did not even use its arm weapons. |
Well, there are certain assault mechs that you could take down with a heavy mech, such as the 3025 versions of Steiner's Banshee and Kurita's Charger, which were both fast, but had far too little armament for their weight classes. The 90-ton Banshee only carried a PPC, an AC/5, and a small laser. The 80 ton Charger on the other hand had it worse. It only packed 5 small lasers. I'd gladly duel either of those with a Warhammer. Hell, you might even be able to take on both of those at the same time, so long as they couldn't make melee attacks.
The same couldn't be said for their later incarnations. Post 3039, both mechs would receive an engine downgrade that allowed them to make major upgrades to their weapons. The Charger in particular would go on to spawn the Hatamoto-Chi, one of my favorite Kurita mechs.
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 3:40 am Post subject: |
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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after experiencing the pains of trying to find an existing stock of the title and after shelling out money to get the Mechwarrior 4 collection... they do this to me!?
LOL
oh well... this only means more players to shoot at in the coming months |
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:58 am Post subject: |
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Posted: Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:20 pm Post subject: |
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Bloody Harmony Gold Fsktards. They go and pirate Macross, and then accuse Battletech of pirating their own pirated material?
*bloody martyred avatar's bleeding wounds!*
Seriously, the BT franchise is in better shape than Robotech. They just want to milk a more prosperous cultural force than they are...because really, Shadow Chronicles sucked.
Whatever. I'm still having fun playing MegaMek, painting Battletech models, and waiting for the Time of War RPG to come out. (I want my Warhammer back!)
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:06 pm Post subject: |
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I still curse Harmony Gold until now.
By the way, it is written on the HUD that the Atlas on the video is ATLAS-C. Does it mean it is AS7-C model? I was looking at the armaments and it is reasonable.
And also, the atlas config is weak. If the warhammer had a few more tons of armor it could have wasted the Atlas. The weapon slot on each arm is wasted.
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Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:41 pm Post subject: |
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Here's the thing with the Warhammer WHM-6R:
Pros:
-Incredible extreme-range firepower (We're talking two PPCs here! This kind of boom-happy firepower was exceeded only by the Awesome!)
-Good point-blank duelling and antipersonnel armaments (depending on configuration, it packs machine guns, as well as small and medium lasers. It fires the machine guns in the video, iirc, so I believe this is a stock 6R 'Hammer.)
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-Trades armor for firepower. It can dish out extreme punishment, but can't take a determined beating.
-Poor heat management. The stock 3025-era Warhammer doesn't mount enough sinks to manage the PPCs and still keep running pace. You can cut loose with two or three salvos with the PPCs, and then be forced to spend a round cooling off (or suffer heatsink overloads or ammo explosions). Alternatively, the pilot will have to bracket his weapons between long range and point-blank, without maximizing the damage output and shutting down the mech.
The video shows exactly what would happen if a Warhammer rounded a corner and slammed into an Atlas. The 'Hammer's first salvos would savage the Atlas, but then the Atlas brings its AC-20/BFG and would systematically dismember the impudent heavy. At extreme ranges however, the Hammer could easily hold its own, as the Atlas can only trade fire with its LRM-20.
I'll have to look up that AS7-C config though, as I'm more familiar with the AS7-D. Could this be the twin large laser and AC/10 variant? *digs through Tech Readout 3025 & 3039*
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That can't possibly be an AS7-C, as that's a Clan Wars era Kurita C3 configuration. It might just be a mislabeled unit. Or alternatively, they could have done it like Mech Commander and dispensed with the canon designations and created their own units (like the A, W, and J Mech Commander schema)
Gut instinct tells me that's likely an AS7-D, as the weapons it fires match the AS7-D's loadout of 2xMedium Lasers (arm mounted, check) 1xAC/20 (hip, which it does fire, savaging the Warhammer) 1xLRM-20 and 1xSRM-6 (It fires missles at a distance and point blank, iirc). If not, it could be the semi-official AS7-LL (Large Laser) variant, swapping the mediums for 2xLarge Lasers, and downgrading the AC and LRM pack.
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:59 am Post subject: |
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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It's on the edges of canon. It's not in TRO: 3025, 3039, or 3050, but there have been some Atlas units that were modified along those lines. I seem to remember reading a fight somewhere in the Stackpole's Warrior trilogy where Morgan Hasek-Davion's Atlas is described as having fired an arm-mounted PPC. I assume that's a major Atlas overhaul, especially for 3025-era tech. Microsoft's Mechwarrior games are noted for moving away from canon in specific mech design, while retaining broad feel and flavor.
Hayyy...It's been a while since I've geeked out like this over battletech units.
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