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We care. It may not look like it, but we do. Every member does.

Juaberman has already talked to us (luckily I was there at the tambayan on that day). About the org's probable dismissal.

We already talked it out. We won't let that happen. I know none of us here want that.

ErrrRRrrrrRRRmMMMm...

What?

Shocked

@Erwin

It's like killing one of your babies...but effing hell. Prove it. Don't just effing say it.

This org has been limping along like a sick dog since my stint as Sec Gen, and rather than let it take the long slide into obscurity and apathy, I'd rather end it now with one kick-ass game day as a farewell project. Kill it now while it's still worth the effort of killing.

I would rather give it a dignified death now than let it shamble along like a bloody zombie or an effing appendix, because we can't seem to get things moving along at all. Kill it now rather than let it reach the point of becoming pathetic.

I'd love to see you prove me wrong, but right now, I don't see that happening.

I totally disagree with you on the matter, Erwin. First and foremost let me just say how many members actually attend a general assembly for the org when a secgen calls for one. Come on, tell me. It's not even a 100%. For a simple thing such as a general assembly people can't even give part of their time. How can a leader tell his subordinates the information that they needed to know if they were not there in the first place. Back in our days, people get out of their way to attend to one even if there was an effin signal number 3.

On the part of no pressure, I totally disagree. In my term, I've pushed each and every member of the org to be committed. There were times when people were laxed but when it came to the time that people need to step up, each and everyone of us in the org placed a foot forward willingly. I dare you to say anyone from the current members stay in the tambayan until 7pm just to attend to an org matter. I dare you to say that there is one member in the org who is willingly to find out on his own what to do if ever he was assigned a task.

I say again if the current members ,I mean members defined by the current constitution, can't do something about this then I would second the motion of blowing the head off of this old dog. Rather than letting it live for a couple of years just waiting for it's demise. I hate to say it but the members right now are all talk, no action. They say they care but they are not that committed. If they were committed from the start this should not be happening at all.

Gentlemen? Let's try to remain calm here.

I must say I felt severely disappointed upon learning the news. I'm even more disappointed at how people are so willing to just let the org roll over and die. I've poured so much of my blood, sweat, and tears into this org... sorry to sound arrogant, but few of you have any idea what sacrifices I've had to make to try and keep the org afloat.

Is that all for nothing now? I don't know. I suppose we all will see, won't we?

*Last edited by dark_axis on Wed Mar 04, 2009 12:22 am; edited 2 times in total*

Nina and mojie. Ha. You are making me laugh. Mojie only comes to the org when he is not hanging out with his other friends. Nina, she was given a proper position as a committee head but what did actually happen. Mojie never stood up when there were times the org needed him. Aside from that I am aware that he committed some attrocities against the org. Nina promised before I left that she will commit herself to add more female mebers in the org but was there any action done to even fulfill that promise.

Emman and Ralph are about a couple of souls that I say do something for the org. Emman joined the org whole heartedly even if there were people against it at that time. Which is very sad, the new members joined without any doubts in their hearts without any feeling that they were going to be rejected but still the org means nothing to them. Ralph pushed himself to know each and every member of the org during he was an applicant and did things out of his way. Right now again I say that the current members don't even know who their freakin founding members are and who are actually members of the org they might know the names but they don't know anything aside from that. Where is the bond of camaraderie there?

Just an FYI, two founding members did not renew in the org since they were turned off with the current attitudes of the members. Another thing I can only count a handful of members that really give a damn on the org.

The members were not terrified by my presence they were terrified since I know what I can do to them according to our constitution. Plus a side note, before I was a leader I was a follower. Two secgens came before me both BJ and xtian, I had moments that I disagreed with them but when it came to the time that they called for my help I was there to answer. BJ and xtian were not terror secgens but people still followed them.

A side note here I hope you don't get offended, you are by sanctity a member but not constitutionally a member so I would actually appreciate to hear something from a technical member of the org.

Old Dragon Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 413 Location: Limbo

Mudholed by: BJ

Please ask me before using my name in conjunction with an opinion that I may or may not share.

Old Dragon Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 413 Location: Limbo

I know that you all mean well and want the org to stay, erwin. But well-wishes can't possibly get this org back on its tracks. Now I agree with you with one thing: "killing" this org isn't the only solution. But you guys really have to commit a lot more than what you're doing right now --- and FAST. There is already a NEED for IMMEDIATE and DRASTIC measures... are you willing to do that? If not, then this org will only just be good as a name on resumes... and that's PATHETIC.

Old Dragon Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 413 Location: Limbo

Now don't take offense at what dark_axis is saying... It's just proof of his love for this org. Besides, to actually form this org from (yellow) paper, a lot of sacrifices were made that some of you can't even imagine.

Old Dragon Joined: 23 Mar 2007 Posts: 413 Location: Limbo

Again, a side note here I hope you don't get offended, you are by sanctity a member but not constitutionally a member so I would actually appreciate to hear something from a technical member of the org.

I'm tired of talking to someone who technically is not a meber of the org. Sorry to be harshed but as per constitution a member should be enrolled I know you have issues but I would like to hear something from a constitutionally recognized member of the org.

Thread locked. No flame wars on my watch.

The org is going to be killed by the EXECOM. Do I like it? No; the org is, in many ways, my firstborn daughter. But last time I checked, the EXECOM has the constitutional right to do so, and as such I do not have the illusion of having any say in the matter.

And erwin, with all due respect, you are not a current member of the org, and as such have no right to gauge if the current administration is indeed defective. The members do, and wouldn't you know it? They can do something about it.

I for one give full support to the current elected EXECOM, simply by virtue of them being elected by its current members. If by some chance you never liked them, then you should have had them impeached.

It all boils down to the print. Say, the members don't like the current admin. They did not do anything about it, even if they are legally capable of doing so. So now, I don't see a problem with the EXECOM dissolving the org, which is something that they can constitutionally do.

I hate the decision, but I see no problem with it either.

That is all. I will coordinate with Xtian to make sure that the boards survive; we may have to reform its identity, though, so that it's no longer bound to the org.

PS. I hear you guys have one final activity, so that HGC can go out with a bang. Don't let us down.

Rest assured the the board will survived, with our without the UPHGC as an org.

Hi guys,

Whatever we are facing right now is just a challenge we need to overcome. This happens to every org, young or old. So far this is our biggest challenge and we all know that the bigger the challenge, the sweeter the victory. After we overcome this challenge let us put this down in our org history as our first major victory.

Alumni and current admin are here to solve this challenge. This will be a very good learning experience for all of us. We will win. Many of members may die but we will be victorious!