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Post Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 12:48 am    Post subject: [Spoiler]Conflux + Something to make you wonder... Reply with quote
December 24. Pardon me for not posting early about info regarding the upcoming set, Conflux.

But since Q had posted the cardlist, I'll just post some of card mechs as copied from MTGS.

In case...

Set Name Conflux
Block Set 2 of 3 in the Shards of Alara block
Number of Cards 145
Release Date February 6, 2009
Prerelease Events January 31-February 1, 2009
Launch Parties February 6,7,8 2009

And 10 Cards:

Unsummon u
Instant Common
Return target creature to its owner's hand.

Worldly Counsel 1u
Instant Common
Look at the top X cards of your library, where X is the number of basic land types among lands you control. Put one of those cards into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library.


Sedraxis Alchemist 2b
Creature - Zombie Wizard Uncommon
When Sedraxis Alchemist comes into play, if you control a blue permanent, you may return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand.
2/2

Fiery Fall
5r
Instant Common
Fiery Fall deals 5 damage to target creature.
Basic landcycling 1{R} (1{R}, Discard this card: Search your library for a basic land card, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Then shuffle your library.)

Maniacal Rage 1r
Enchantment - Aura Common
Enchant creature
Enchanted creature gets +2/+2 and can't block.

Exploding Borders 2rg
Sorcery Common
Search your library for a basic land card and put that card into play tapped. Then shuffle your library.
Exploding Borders deals X damage to target player, where X is the number of basic land types among lands you control.

Fusion Elemental wubrg
Creature - Elemental Uncommon
Fusion Elemental is like riding a pony, which probably doesn't sound dangerous, except that in this case the pony is 300 feet tall and covered in chainsaws, and to get on the pony you have to take an elevator with sixteen live cougars.
8/8

Mana Cylix
1
Artifact Common
1, {T}: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.

Obelisk of Alara 6
Artifact Rare
1{W}, {T}: You gain 5 life.
1{U}, {T}: Draw a card, then discard a card.
1{B}, {T}: Target creature gets -2/-2 until end of turn.
1{R}, {T}: Obelisk of Alara deals 3 damage to target player.
1{G}, {T}: Target creature gets +4/+4 until end of turn.

Exotic Orchard

Land Rare
{T}: Add to your mana pool one mana of any color that a land an opponent controls could produce.

And...

Alara Reborn "Scissors"

The birth of one world. The death of five.

Set Name Alara Reborn
Block Set 3 of 3 in the Shards of Alara block
Number of Cards 145
Release Date Thursday, April 30, 2009
Prerelease Events April 25-26, 2009
Launch Parties April 30-May 3, 2009
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Post Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nice reprints (Unsummon, Worldly Counsel, Maniacal Rage)

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Sedraxis Alchemist 2b
Creature - Zombie Wizard Uncommon
When Sedraxis Alchemist comes into play, if you control a blue permanent, you may return target nonland permanent to its owner's hand.
2/2

Looks good, a deck might probably use this.

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Fiery Fall
5r
Instant Common
Fiery Fall deals 5 damage to target creature.
Basic landcycling 1{R} (1{R}, Discard this card: Search your library for a basic land card, reveal it, and put it into your hand. Then shuffle your library.)

Nice new mechanic, basicland cycling.

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Exploding Borders 2rg
Sorcery Common
Search your library for a basic land card and put that card into play tapped. Then shuffle your library.
Exploding Borders deals X damage to target player, where X is the number of basic land types among lands you control.

I'm definitely going to make a deck with this.
DAMAGING LAND SEARCH FTW!! Twisted Evil Twisted Evil

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Fusion Elemental wubrg
Creature - Elemental Uncommon
8/8

lol vanilla biggies

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Mana Cylix
1
Artifact Common
1, {T}: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.

A 1 to cast fixer Cool
But it doesn't produce its own :/

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Obelisk of Alara 6
Artifact Rare
1{W}, {T}: You gain 5 life.
1{U}, {T}: Draw a card, then discard a card.
1{B}, {T}: Target creature gets -2/-2 until end of turn.
1{R}, {T}: Obelisk of Alara deals 3 damage to target player.
1{G}, {T}: Target creature gets +4/+4 until end of turn.

I'll be using this as well. Twisted Evil

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Exotic Orchard
Land Rare
{T}: Add to your mana pool one mana of any color that a land an opponent controls could produce.

Reverse Reflecting Pool!


I'm liking the domain cards so far Very Happy
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Post Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
New Card:

Noble Hierarch G
Creature - Rhino Monk? ?
Exalted
{T}: Add {W}, {U}, or {G} to your mana pool.
0/1

Exalted mana prod? Awesome Very Happy
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Post Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 8:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Reverse reflecting pool? I say, a land fellwar stone Laughing
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Post Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 2:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
NEW CARDS! (dec 28 '08 )

Path to Exile w
Instant Uncommon
Remove target creature from the game. Its controller may search his or her library for a basic land card, put it into play tapped, then shuffle his or her library.

Scepter of Dominance 1ww
Artifact Uncommon
{W}, {T}: Tap target permanent.

Wall of Reverence 3w
Creature - Wall Rare
Defender, flying
At the end of your turn, gain life equal to the power of a creature you control.
1/6

Scepter of Insight 1uu
Artifact Uncommon
3{U}, {T}: Draw a card.

Scepter of Fugue bb
Artifact Uncommon
1{B}, {T}: Target player discards a card. Play this ability only during your turn.

Might of Alara g
Instant Common
Domain - Target creature gets +X/+X until end of turn for each basic land type among lands you control.

Goblin Outlander rg
Creature - Goblin Scout? Common
Protection from blue
2/2

Nacatl Outlander gw
Creature - Cat Scout Common
Protection from black
2/2

Valeron Outlander uw
Creature - Human Scout Common
Protection from red
2/2

Vedalken Outlander ub
Artifact Creature - Vedalken Scout? Common
Protection from green
2/2

Zombie Outlander br
Creature - Zombie Scout? Common
Protection from white
2/2


SCOUT SERIES.
Reminds me of the Invasion counterparts, but they got other abilities before besides protection from enemy color.

Also, Path to Exile looks.. cool but hurts. A lot especially at early turns.

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Post Posted: Sun Dec 28, 2008 4:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
time for lush growth and prismatic omen to shine!
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Post Posted: Sat Jan 03, 2009 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Rupture Spire
   
Land   Common
Rupture Spire comes into play tapped.
When Rupture Spire comes into play, sacrifice it unless you pay 1.
{T}: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.

Unstable Frontier
   
Land   Uncommon
{T}: Add 1 to your mana pool.
{T}: Target land you control becomes the basic land type of your choice until end of turn.


Finally, some cheap multicolor lands! Looks like erwin can finally make his 5-Color Charm deck haha.
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Post Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Conflux 3wubrg
Sorcery Mythic Rare
Search your library for a white card, a blue card, a black card, a red card and a green card. Reveal these cards and put them into your hand. Shuffle your library afterward.


im going to use this. i don't know how, but i will...
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Post Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2009 1:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Q wrote:
Finally, some cheap multicolor lands! Looks like erwin can finally make his 5-Color Charm deck haha.


I doubt Rupture Spire will not get a price hike on prerelease, even on release dates.

Unstable Frontier is just a fixer land, so I don't think its price will climb.

juaberman wrote:
Conflux 3wubrg
Sorcery Mythic Rare
Search your library for a white card, a blue card, a black card, a red card and a green card. Reveal these cards and put them into your hand. Shuffle your library afterward.



im going to use this. i don't know how, but i will...

I'ma put that in mah 5color deck Laughing
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Path to Exile w
Instant Uncommon
Remove target creature from the game. Its controller may search his or her library for a basic land card, put it into play tapped, then shuffle his or her library.


Still the best card I've seen in Conflux. It acts as mana-accel and, in a pinch, spot removal.

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Rupture Spire
   
Land   Common
Rupture Spire comes into play tapped.
When Rupture Spire comes into play, sacrifice it unless you pay 1.
{T}: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool.


erwin wrote:
Q wrote:

Finally, some cheap multicolor lands! Looks like erwin can finally make his 5-Color Charm deck haha.



I doubt Rupture Spire will not get a price hike on prerelease, even on release dates.


It should be extremely cheap; around Php 5~10 methinks. With the extreme tempo loss you gain from playing a land, I highly doubt that Constructed players would want to play one of these unless the mana base really needs it.
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Q wrote:
It should be extremely cheap; around Php 5~10 methinks. With the extreme tempo loss you gain from playing a land, I highly doubt that Constructed players would want to play one of these unless the mana base really needs it.

I actually misread the card and thought it was pay 1 life Embarassed
It really is a tempo breaker, but I see a possibility of it in a deck, especially those decks that doesn't do much on early turns, or retrace decks Very Happy
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Noble Hierarch, can it replace Llanowar Elf? Or will it stand side by side with its older brother in elf decks?
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NEW CARDS (jan 5, '09 )

Lapse of Certainty 2w
Instant Uncommon
Counter target spell. If that spell is countered this way, put it on top of its owner's library instead of into that player's graveyard.

Martial Coup xww
Sorcery Rare
Put X 1/1 white Soldier creature tokens into play. If X is 5 or greater, destroy all other creatures.

Esperzoa 2u
Artifact Creature - Jellyfish Uncommon
Flying
At the beginning of your upkeep, return an artifact you control to its owner's hand.
4/3

Extractor Demon 4bb
Creature - Demon Rare
Flying
Whenever another creature is put into a graveyard from play, you may have target player put the top two cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.
Unearth 2{B}
5/5

Voracious Dragon 3rr
Creature - Dragon Rare
Flying
Devour 1
When Voracious Dragon comes into play, it deals damage equal to twice the number of goblins devoured this way to target creature or player.
4/4

Cylian Sunsinger 1g
Creature - Elf Shaman Rare
{R}{G}{W}: Cylian Sunsinger and all other creatures with the same name as it get +3/+3 until end of turn.
2/2

Giltspire Avenger gwu
Creature - Human Soldier Rare
Exalted (Whenever a creature you control attacks alone, it gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)
{T}: Destroy target creature that dealt damage to you this turn.
2/2

Malfegor 2bbrr
Legendary Creature - Demon Dragon Mythic Rare
Flying
When Malfegor comes into play, discard your hand. Each opponent sacrifices a creature for each card discarded this way.
6/6




Lapse of Certainty is cheaper Hinder(bottom only) in white. WTH

Martial Coup is wrath of god w/ tokens! or just token producer. works well with immobilization IMO Twisted Evil
Reminds me of Desolation Giant

Voracious Dragon is goblin eater. Time for dragon fodder to shine, as well as goblin assault Very Happy

Cylian Sunsinger is Titanic in a box! combo it with mirror weave!

Giltspire Avenger looks good, cheap for its size. it really won't attack, killing your enemy troops

Malfegor is Hellbent + Edict for opponents Twisted Evil
and a dragon to boot.
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Are there any artifact cards with a "When 'cardname' comes into play" clause? Might be able to use Esperzoa, unfortunately, blue isn't a good aggro color IMO.
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Hmm... Off the top of my head, Sigil of Distinction and Elsewhere Flask. And that white-black thing that b_b uses. You could also use Ornithopter as a free target.
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Elsewhere flask would be good, since it's a card draw Very Happy
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Q wrote:
Hmm... Off the top of my head, Sigil of Distinction and Elsewhere Flask. And that white-black thing that b_b uses. You could also use Ornithopter as a free target.


Perhaps not the Sculler. It seems strange to keep RFG'ing the same card over and over, due to its leaves play effect. You're essentially paying two mana later on for the same effect you paid for earlier, plus you lose tempo since your zombie can't swing, barring some haste effect.
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What is mythic?
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^new rarity. There's a chance (forget how much) that a Mythic Rare will replace your normal rare in a booster pack. From a design standpoint, they're usually cards with "big effects," though not always at the most efficient cost, obviously.

Actually, that brings Conflux to mind. Practically speaking, one could use that as a "response" to Cruel Ultimatum. Keep 4-5 cards in hand, Conflux and a land if you're lucky, and let the other guy's Cruel resolve. On your play drop a land and play Conflux to look for five silver bullets; not too difficult in the current multi-color format. Essentially you're still down -1 in CA, but you make up for it with threat density. If you suspect your opponent still has another Cruel, why, no harm in searching for another Conflux, at that XD
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Volcanic Fallout
   1rr
Instant   Uncommon
Volcanic Fallout can't be countered.
Volcanic Fallout deals 2 damage to each creature and each player.


The new Baygon. Sure hell on faeries and potential Block main sweep.

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Goblin Razerunners
   2rr
Creature - Goblin Warrior   Rare
1{R}, Sacrifice a land: Put a +1/+1 counter on Goblin Razerunners.
At the end of your turn, you may have Goblin Razerunners deal damage to target player equal to the number of +1/+1 counters on it.
      3/4


Interesting card.. hope it's a crap rare

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Countersquall
   ub
Instant   Uncommon
Counter target noncreature spell. Its controller loses 2 life.


Negate + Shock, though with more screw potential
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Sigil of the Empty Throne 3ww
Enchantment Rare
Whenever you play an enchantment spell, put a 4/4 white Angel creature token with flying into play.

Enchantment deck, here we go!!! Twisted Evil

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Gleam of Resistance 4w
Instant Common
Creatures you control get +1/+2 until end of turn. Untap those creatures.
Basic landcycling 1{W}

lol, good at limited.

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Traumatic Visions 3uu
Instant Common
Counter Target Spell
Basic landcycling 1{U}

O_O 5 to cast hard counter.. at least there's basic land cycle..


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Absorb Vis 6b
Sorcery Common
Taget player loses 4 life and you gain 4 life.
Basic landcycling 1{B}

Nyar, large costing swing

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Paleoloth 4gg
Creature - Beast Rare
Whenever creature with power 5 or greater comes into play under your control, you may return target creature card from your graveyard to your hand.
5/5

Has potential, though I'm guessing this will go crap rare.

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Sylvan Bounty 5g
Instant Common
Target player gains 8 life.
Basic landcycling 1{G}

the one thing good about this is it's INSTANT Very Happy

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Kaleidostone 2
Artifact Common
When Kaleidostone comes into play, draw a card.
5, {T}, Sacrifice Kaleidostone: Add {W}{U}{B}{R}{G} to your mana pool.

LOL, cool new prisma fixer. low cost to boot



cool new baygon (Volcanic Fallout), luckily it damages players as well.

Goblin Razerunners + Reinforce = Twisted Evil

Countersquall will awaken counter decks IMO. though still not a hard counter.
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Banefire XR
Sorcery Rare
Banefire deals X damage to target creature or player. If X is 5 or greater, Banefire can't be countered by spells or abilities and the damage can't be prevented.

Shocked

The "X >= 5" cycle is definitely going to see some serious play, I think.

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Shard Convergence 3G
Sorcery Uncommon
Search your library for a Plains card, an Island card, a Swamp card, and a Mountain card. Put these cards into your hand, then shuffle your library.

Great fixer and Domain enabler. Ramp builds will have this at least by turn three and it'll be pretty hard to get mana and/or color screwed after that. It's not accel, per se; more like draw and filter, but still, Domain decks will love it Very Happy

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Bone Saw 0
Artifact - Equipment Common
Equip 1- Equipped creature gets +1/+0.

Functional reprint of Shuko lol
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boy_bakal wrote:
The "X >= 5" cycle is definitely going to see some serious play, I think.

I don't think it would be a cycle, it maybe a Naya thing..
But I sure wish it would be a cycle Very Happy

Shard Convergence is awesome, Ramp deck shall live again! Twisted Evil
It may actually become a Toast counterpart, but instead of control, ramp would be used.
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Meglonoth
   3rgw
Creature - Beast   Rare
Vigilance, trample
Whenever Meglonoth blocks a creature, Meglonoth deals damage equal to its power to target player.
      6/6

Hellkite Hatchling
   2rg
Creature - Dragon   Uncommon
Devour 1
Hellkite Hatchling has flying and trample if it devoured a creature.
      2/2


Finally, some decent drops for Naya aggro/biggie decks.

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Blood Tyrant
   4ubr
Creature - Vampire   Rare
Flying
At the beginning of your upkeep each player loses 1 life.
Whenever a player loses life, put that many +1/+1 counters on Blood Tyrant.
Whenever a player loses the game, put 5 +1/+1 counters on Blood Tyrant.
      5/5


I want to use this in Emperor~! Phyrexian Arena + painlands = arbitrarily large flying vampire
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Ramp decks will be coming back because of that Laughing
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Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker 4UBBR
Planeswalker - Bolas Mythic Rare
+3: Destroy target noncreature permanent.
-2: Gain control of target creature.
-9: Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker deals 7 damage to target player. That player discards seven cards, then sacrifices seven permanents.
5


The 5 at the bottom is his loyalty, but I don't think I needed to tell anybody that Razz

Well, there you go. Took a while for Grixis to get a 'walker, but dang... effin' worth it, yeah?
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Post Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Wow. Nicol Bolas looks effing awesome. Hehehe, I may go back to MtG once my work settles down, albeit only online. I'm going to like building a casual deck around this sucker.

Flavorwise, what the heck is Bolas doing in Alara?
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Post Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nicol Bolas looks good. 8 to cast with 5 loyalty isn't so bad, as you could activate his "ultimate" next turn(assuming you use his semi-vindicate when you play him), and he lives after that Twisted Evil Cool

The rumors was right, his 3rd ability is stronger, IMO, than cruel ultimatum.

And one more thing I noticed is his 2nd ability (gain control of creature) doesn't end at end of turn. Shocked
I don't know if I hope for it to be an error or be true. Confused
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Post Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Actually, it requires at least two turns to activate the "ultimate". 5 + 3 = 8 < 9, yeah? Very Happy

I'm definitely thinking Nicol Bolas will be used in competitive decks. I agree, the -9 ability is quite a bit stronger than Cruel Ultimatum.
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Post Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Darn, I actually edited that from 2 turns to next turn, I thought I was wrong the first time I posted. *facepalm*
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