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Core Book errata below:

Updated 07/02/08

Most notable change, for me, is the 5-pt lowering of skill check DC's, plus the modifications to the crunch of skill challenges (now all skill challenges end at 3 failures, I'm not sure I like that particular change).

My DMG is going to have a lot of post-it notes. Sad

I will try to post whenever a new errata comes out.

Thanks for the link. Very Happy

Lol'd at Blade Cascade. So much for Orcus killer.
Also, Containing strike. Laughing

though i don't think that [ts] was erratad. was that intentional, or is it really times (multiplication) as i guess it was.

I guess the logical conclusion would be to not declare the number of failures. I don't want to see a "No don't try that! We got two failures already!" sort of thing.

The Blade Cascade was weird. The same maneuver from 3.5 ToB had a -4 after each swing. I'm glad they changed that.

Oh man! There goes my blade cascade dream...

Well, it was inevitable anyway, this errata. This 4thEd PHB - hell, all the 4th Ed Core Rulebooks - seemed too hurried, as if the Nine Hells were going to burst forth if they didn't get to the printing press quickly enough.

That's right, when things go wrong, blame daddy Asmo and his cronies. Laughing

Seriously, though, I don't mind errata. What I would mind is 4.5. I'm so going to get pissed if that happens.

So bring on the errata!

Lol @ Prone errata

No more shifting from prone, which made no sense whatsoever in the first place Laughing

Old Dragon Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 577

Old Dragon Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 577

Old Dragon Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 577

Where's the latest errata re: stealth?

That would be here

Updated 8/11/08

They basically changed Stealth (y'all know this one), seeing Invisible creatures, and a few powers. My fighter's Dance of Steel attack now immobilizes rather than slows! Yay! Mr. Green

I think there's something wrong in the DM Screen pdf.
It's just a table of DCs.
Or is it suppose to be like that?

It's supposed to be like that. It's "errata" for the DM screen, not "a" DM screen. Razz

Updated 1/20/09.

This is a big, new batch of updates, and so far I haven't absorbed everything yet. although for Advenurer's Vault, they seem to have removed my favorite for the low-level barbarian: Veteran's Armor. Now it doesn't even have a daily power.

Well, at least now Spellscarred and Swordmage Implements have been cleared up. Wink

Good news for those who want to swordmage MC. Wink

Will check out the rest later.

aw, they removed the cool part of the pact hammer (when hitting target with curse using hammer, deal extra curse damage). Actually, the second cool part of it (hammer as implements is the 1st Laughing

)

And really sad news for veteran's armor.

Old Dragon Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 577

They also toned down a lot of the "Must Use" Orbs from Adventurer's Vault.

BTW, correct me if I'm wrong, but the way the Swordmage multiclass feat errata is worded:

Blade Initiate [Addition]
Forgotten Realms Player’s Guide, page 139
In the Benefit section, add “as a minor action” to the end of the second sentence.
At the end of the Benefit section, add “In addition, you can use swordmage implements.”

Is quite different from the way the Cleric, Wizard, and Warlock feats are worded:

Initiate of the Faith [Multiclass Cleric]
In addition, you can use a holy symbol as an implement when using a cleric power or a cleric paragon path power.

Pact Initiate [Multiclass Warlock]
In addition, you can use a rod, a wand, or a pact blade as an implement when using a warlock power or a warlock paragon path power.

Arcane Initiate [Multiclass Wizard]
In addition, you can use an orb, a staff, or a wand as an implement when using a wizard power or a wizard paragon path power.

So does this mean Blade Initiates can now use their swords as implements when casting their other powers with the implement keyword?

WotC has been known to change the way they word their rules from time to time. Even in MtG (although they almost always explain the change there).

To me, "you can use swordmage implements" and "you can use heavy blades and light blades as implements when using swordmage powers and paragon path powers" mean the same.

But until they start re-writing all new MC feats from the PHB2 onward this way as well, I acknowledge that the-bumper-car's interpretation leads greter strength in the argument.

For the record, though, I plan to houserule this in all of my games. And possibly apply it for Bonethrall games as well (after consultation with the rest of tech team).

Old Dragon Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 577

Latter.

the problem with the former is, it plays merry hell with all the light blade/heavy blade magical weapon properties. There are some seriously sick combinations out there when combined with swordmage spells.

If you're willing to wade through all the trollpoop, there are some really sick builds in the WotC swordmage errata discussion that would be legal if you allow it to go in that direction.

Old Dragon Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 577

Reading through the post now. What's a gish?

And for now I am temporarily siding with my Sunday playgroup's reasoning that the RAW is acceptable as it's "fun". Razz

July Errata
Errata on PHB, Martial Power, and FRPG.

Rain of Blows, Righteous Rage of Tempus, Dual Strike and Guileful Switch are nerfed. SO much. But still usable, IMO.

Really disappointed on Rain of Blows, especially Guileful Switch T_T. I haven't even used it.

And they slightly change how battlerager bonus damage works. You have to have THP for the bonus damage to kick in.

pdf link: March 2010 Updates

Divine Miracle gets the nerf bat. It can only be used once per encounter now.

And at last, Orb of Imposition gets a nerf. A serious, serious nerf:

Old Dragon Joined: 30 Aug 2007 Posts: 577

Dang, the Orb of Imposition really toned it down. At least that means there's a reason to use other orbs (or, in fact, other implements) now.