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Athanasia Kitty
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:34 pm Post subject: |
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Culling blade deals 100 000 000 damage
[s]Borrowed time heals damage at the same time damage is dealt to you. [/s]
Seems like Borrowed time will heal before AND after the damage is taken, checking that your newly healed HP is the same as when you got the damage.
Weird.
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supertotoy
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:33 pm Post subject: |
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erwin
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 6:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Kitty wrote: | | Culling blade deals 100 000 000 damage |
lol what?
so fatal bonds (with heroes bonded) + culling blade = ?!?!?!?! WTF!?!?!
and so is gravekeeper cloak (aka dispersion of spectre v6.51) + culling blade = kill evrybody in 600 radius??
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Athanasia Kitty
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:09 pm Post subject: |
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No. There is a cap [max hp] for fatal bonds and dispersion[pre-6.50]
And yes, it's 100 000 000
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potpotpanot
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:30 pm Post subject: |
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| i think they've put a cap on the dispersion and fatal bonds so that you cant have instakills for the whole party. I've read it in a previous changelog |
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potpotpanot
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:33 pm Post subject: |
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haha!
i didnt realize the second page XD |
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potpotpanot
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:40 pm Post subject: |
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hey, which orb effects work with illusions?
like how they can burn mana but cant trigger chain lightnings from maelstrom? |
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mnightsilver
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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I don't think illusions trigger neither maelstrom nor mjolnir. I tested it with azwraith, and it just doesn't happen. I bet it only helps in revealing the real azwraith, lol, as the chain lightnings will come from him and him alone.
Corruption (Stygian Desolator) also does not work for illusions.
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potpotpanot
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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how about orb effects and buff placers from other heroes?
incapacitating bite, geostrike, caustic finale, germinate attack, naix's new lifesteal, fury swipe, etc.
i know that mercurial's desolate and davion's elder dragon buff placers works on images. |
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supertotoy
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Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 11:58 pm Post subject: |
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All passive abilities of heroes (Dragon Blood included, curiously enough) will work on illusions. Feast works, but illusions of Na'ix don't heal. Germinate Attack is an orb effect, it won't work. Unfortunately, Feedback is the only orb effect working with illusions.
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Xtian
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Athanasia Kitty wrote: | Culling blade deals 100 000 000 damage
[s]Borrowed time heals damage at the same time damage is dealt to you. [/s]
Seems like Borrowed time will heal before AND after the damage is taken, checking that your newly healed HP is the same as when you got the damage.
Weird. |
If Abaddon is in borrowed time and mortred crits him for let say... 1200 damage will he die?
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erwin
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Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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If Abaddon's life is less than the damage dealt, then he'll surely die. 
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boy_bakal
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| erwin wrote: | | If Abaddon's life is less than the damage dealt, then he'll surely die. |
No, that can't be right. Then he'd die from a Storm Bolt even under Borrowed Time, which is certainly not the case.
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erwin
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Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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Let me rephrase that.
If Abaddon's MAX HP is less than the damage dealt, then he'll surely die.
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supertotoy
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Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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According to DotA Allstars wiki, for any of the Heal type Triggered Dodges (Dispersion, Aphotic Shield, Borrowed Time, and Refraction), if an incoming attack deals more damage than the receiving hero's maximum HP, the hero will die. So erwin is correct. 
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potpotpanot
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Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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| My pc can't support warcraft 3 so I can't test, but say you're carrying an activated armlet of mordigan then split of some illusions, will the illusions be drained by the armlet like you or will they be immune from it? |
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boy_bakal
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Posted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 9:25 am Post subject: |
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according to mark, the armlet still works but the illusions take no extra damage
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mnightsilver
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Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, it does. I noticed in a test game that the illusions have greater damage, but they do not lose hp per sec.
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potpotpanot
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Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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in 6.51, will watchers, observer wards, and sentry wards prevent respawn of creep camps?
if not, is there a cheap way to prevent them from respawning? |
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supertotoy
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know about other creep camps, but any kind of vision over Roshan's spawning site doesn't prevent him from respawning. So I take it is the same with other ancients/creeps.
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Xtian
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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supertotoy
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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boy_bakal
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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| potpotpanot wrote: | in 6.51, will watchers, observer wards, and sentry wards prevent respawn of creep camps?
if not, is there a cheap way to prevent them from respawning? |
I tried it with Eyes of the Forest and they still respawn.
Does KILL THEM ALL count as a solution?
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Xtian
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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erwin
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Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Xtian wrote: | | Will purge remove debuffs? |
Yes, if you target purge on allied units. Though I'm not sure if they'll get slowed or not.
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mnightsilver
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Posted: Mon Apr 28, 2008 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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They don't get slowed, I'm pretty sure of that. Purge on self and allies have the electric animation, but the animation is brief and the slow is omitted.
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dark_axis
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Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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can anyone give me a build for azgalor??
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Xtian
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 1:27 am Post subject: |
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erwin
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Posted: Wed May 14, 2008 2:09 am Post subject: |
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@dark_axis:
guinsoo is always good for int types. or shiva's guard.
try asking qbf, as he is more experienced on Azgalor.
@Xtian:
Yes, since it's damage. It's also reduced by Bristleback's skill.
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supertotoy
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Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 1:06 pm Post subject: |
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@erwin: As far as I know, FS is not affected by BF. FS is an orb effect that places a non-purgable de-buff on an enemy unit previously attacked by Ursa Warrior. It deals a separate orb damage (type: Normal) from the hero's attack. However, since it's Normal damage, it is armor reducible and is affected by Vanguard, Stout Shield, Kraken Shell, etc. You can lifesteal from it, though (it shouldn't come from an orb of course...).
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