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Hmm... app poster rough draft. Came up with this one at least. B&W since quite likely we'll be xeroxing the poster anyway. I'll try to think of other designs and for D&D and DoTA as well. And since I don't know who's contact info goes there, I just proxied my own for the meantime.

Feel free to comment or suggest stuff. And it would be helpful if you can think of better lines. Very Happy

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I can't view it right, it's scaled down. Can you just link the pic?

Click it.

All I can say about the poster is GOOOOOOOOOOOODDDDDD JOOOOOOOBBBBBB!!!!!!!! Catchy, I want to see what you guys can do for the other games. BTW, one suggestion though with the text could you make it more dynamic in a way. Very Happy

Did you crop the Magic logo using magic wand? Try setting the feather to 0px

Goddess Joined: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 1118 Location: denial

I'm not an expert... But won't black be that much harder (and more expensive) to print? Shocked

Jol!

Don't really know much about Photoshop. If you want to fix the poster, I uploaded it HERE.

Base on my experience, darker print outs are more expensive. Budget photocopies are for text only print outs.

What's the news on the renewal? Were you guys able to select a poster already? Have you started giving out fliers? UPDATES!!!!!!

Renewal forms have already been passed. At the moment, work groups have been assigned to work on securing an app booth and ACLE.

Actually, the poster is good enough for me, trying to attract Magic players, that is.

It would be good to have other games advertised in the same manner, just for consistency and so that the posters are memorable as OUR posters. Took this advice from my marketing research class.

That was my original plan but can't think of any quickie descriptions for DnD and DoTA.

Very Old Dragon Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 693

>_> Post a sketch of the location of our Tambayan and scribble "Here be (Dungeons and) Dragons?

That's sorta funny... I can't explain it. Is that good or bad? Shocked

@Q: To be honest, we shouldn't really be advertising ourselves as The DoTA org... Personally it's bad advertising. You get my drift?

I guess, for DnD, we simply change the Magic:the Gathering logo to DnD. Now for a catchphrase... Let's discuss it at the GA on Monday.

Other card games are still uncovered, and so are other table-top pen and paper RPG's.

Very Old Dragon Joined: 29 Aug 2007 Posts: 693

>_> It does happen occasionally. I joined partially because I always wanted to learn how to play D&D.

I know. But you're already part of the target demographic; you already had a reason to join the org (D&D.) I'm just saying it might be better to attract people by using mainstream means first.

^You're assuming students in UP who like to play D&D will automatically want to join the org. I can say that this is not true, as I can think of at least one counterexample.

One of the problems in expanding the org's scope is that we tend to lose focus on the foundations that the org was built upon, which could gradually lead to a general loss of identity. Still, in the end, it's for you folks still enrolled in the university to decide, really. I'm just stating how it's turned out for me, based on past experiences.

To put it in D&D terms, sticking to core is much safer than relying on splatbooks. Well, I'd like to pitch in and help too, though I am not technically a member anymore.

@b_b & BJ: I don't think you guys are aware of the numbers of the org. At the moment the orgs numbers are leaning to the seniors about 80% of it and that means when they graduate, the numbers left in the org is about 3 people and that is not good and that could mean a disaster. I know quality != quantity but as the moment calls for it the orgs numbers will drastically decrease if they don't get to attract a lot of new members. At the moment, if they think opening new branches to the org is a way to increase its numbers then it's fine with me because members equals the org in my point of view without members to sustain it the org will automatically die, not eventually.

Sticking to what we have done before is a safe way. But sometimes we must take risks in desperate times to achieve greater results. The only problem I see here is if you do decide to welcome new games, you should also be willing to maintain them. Iirc, that was the reason some applicants before faded away since they were welcomed in the org knowing that the org is going to support their gaming unfortunately people run out dry in the end for such games.

I get where you're coming from, d_a, but your argument is based on the wrong assumption; that I do not know the org's numbers. But I think we actually share the same views, so let me just elaborate on what I was saying.

At the moment, Q was proposing that we extend our reach to take in DotA players and/or DnD. I am not in favor of that, because spreading out too early will result in an org that could be composed of too many groups. I am not suggesting that we stick to what we have done in the past; in fact, I am saying the exact opposite. We have always tried to attract to many people.

Instead, I propose you lessen the org's niche's, if only for the 1st sem.

Niche: Magic. I believe M:tG draws in a large crowd, and if we do it right, the org can survive on M:tG alone. But in recent years, I have seen students who play M:tG, but decide to avoid joining the org. We can change this. We can run DCI-sanctioned games, and a joint card pool is always a possibility. The specifics of actually getting to do it should be reserved for another discussion; the point is we can use this as a way to show that there are benefits in applying for the org.

Niche: DnD. Everyone here knows tha I'm more of a DnD player than a Magic player these days, but at the same time, I am weary of using this as a main draw. The obstacle that the org has to overcome when it comes to DnD is its isolationist nature. Too often have I seen applicants do miserably in their interviews because the only people they know are their DnD-mates, and not the org itself. If you plan on pursuing this niche, I suggest a requisite non-DnD tambay.

Niche: DotA. I'll be blunt. DotA is only played beyond the tambayan, so DotA causes the hill to be emptied too early. Again, if this is to be a niche, then there should probably be non-DotA requisite tambay hours.

Niche. Other RPGs and CCG's. We can pursue these once we get a new and reliable membership base.

Limiting the niche does not reduce the apps; it ensures that the apps have a common interest. The most successful batch was a group o MtG players (b_b's batch). Which brings me to my next point.

The goal of getting a lot of new members should be secondary to getting quality members.

d_a and I will most likely disagree here, but I'm of the opinion that a big batch of people who do not understand what the org is all about is useless. We've always been scared of flunking apps because there's so few of them; I suggest we change this. The ideal goal is to get a lot of quality members, but quality should take over quantity. We should fail unworthy apps during FR, we shouldn't even let people who flunk the interview get to the FR.

In this regard, we should also take care of our apps. A number of people who flunked the interview did so because they weren't guided by the members well. You know what these are; the tambayan is emptied too early, the consti doesn't get distributed, it takes weeks for them to get an app logbook.

To conclude:
*Attract a lot of fish so we can choose the cream of the crop.
*Use one or two juicy lures instead of many half-baked ones.
*Keep feeding the unhealthy fish so they become part of the cream of the crop.
=Good, quality members.

That is all.

@BJ: I understand your point and actually there was just a slight difference in time when I started to see that DotA is what causes the tambayan to be empty. Well, my solution here is to require the members to stay at the hill up to a certain time. That no member should be allowed to coerce or to attract co-members to play during that period of time. If we can implement this then having DoTA as part of the org is not that nuch of a problem. I completely agree with Q on the matter of quality vs quantity at the moment, practicality is the issue here, if we keep on throwing away the lesser fish then the org would end up as a hungry one indeed. Remember too that I was the secgen during the time of b_b's batch. I still remember correctly that I went for quantity rather than quality. It may have its ups and downs but still those that were considered as good fish back then eventually turned into bad fish and the bad fish back then turned into members who are more than willing to step up. I don't think that the measure of an applicant is limited in the application process. The process more likely screens out those who can't stand it. Even if there was a lesser fish who didn't pass the app process the fact that he remains or keeps on going to the tambayan for me is enough dedication since it takes up their own time and requires a lot of courage. That's all.

@Q: Hehehehe I'm actually proud of you. In terms of the discussion. I just hope that you share the same thoughts during a GA rather than remaining silent most of the time. I see a great potential on you. I hope you keep it up.